WestCoastTrader 0 Posted May 20, 2022 Hi, I looking to get some ideas and how to maximize my trades. My trade from today I am going to use as an example Entry short at 96.03 Stop set at 96.50 (Top of the previous candle) My risk is $0.50 My exit on this were Half my position at the next support level (The half dollar at 95.50) Another half at the whole dollar (95 Then I had a oopise on DAS, I wanted to get out at the next half dollar (94.50) it was super small size and hind sight AMD didn't get there so I guess it was a good oops All in all I got 1.8R on this trade, not bad, but I would like to be above 2 and hopefully closer to 3R on the trades. Looking at this trade I only see 2 ways to increase my R 1. Tighter stop loss leading to more shares, which on this one I don't see a better place for the stop? 2. Don't partial as aggressive and hold a bigger position for the further drops. Just wanted to see what your guys strategies are and what you guys would do? Thanks Michael Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WestCoastTrader 0 Posted May 23, 2022 On 5/20/2022 at 8:13 AM, peterB said: just my opinion so adopt as you like... partialling is counterproductive most of the time especially for new traders. proof of that are your patials on your screenshot. if you set stop to break even instead of first partial then you would have more shares to partial on the 2nd partial the 3rd partial is basically the same as the 2nd partial so there is no reason to do it at all. if you did not exit on the 2nd partial price then there is no reason to exit on the second as well as nothing changed, onlyt he price is a bit lower which is so small that it does not matter. some ideas how to solve it: try to use 2R/3R all or nothing hotkeys/range orders. once you open a trade you have no control over the outcome anyway and i bet if you look at your own stats if you did not do the 1st partial on your winners you would have more profits. its just the nature of it. why do you need the profit from the 1st R? i guess to make you calm and be able to hold longer. implement ATR into your trading. if you see that daily ATR for AMD is $6 and you see the stock opened at $99 you can statistically expect that if you caught the whole day move you can expect the price to go to $93 on this day. so you can target for example 70% of the move so $4.20 from 99 which would be $94.80 so this is your target for the stock on the move down. another advantage of using ATR is that once you start looking at it this way you will look for sooner/better entries and catch the even bigger moves in your case you would have confidence to short iat at 97 as you expect it to move down below 95 so 4R move in this case. you need to go through your trades to see if it would make sense or retest it in replay mode to practice your patience as usually overpartialling is a bad habit which takes time to get rid of. i always remember what @Aiman told me when talking about partialing: "Who needs to book 0.5R? What do you need it for?" Thank you Peter, There is some good advise in there, and it does make sense that I am taking partials too soon Thanks Again Michael Share this post Link to post Share on other sites