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For those who may be interested: I have successfully transitioned from day-trading stocks to day-trading options @avi style. I ONLY buy calls or puts for day-trading. There are videos from @Megan and @Avi in the bbt education center about this approach and the advantages of day-trading options vs stocks such as lesser capital requirements etc.
Thank you @megan and @avi.
https://bearbulltraders.com/course/webinars-mentorship/lesson/strategy-2/topic/setup-execution-results-avi/
https://bearbulltraders.com/course/options-webinars-2/lesson/the-power-of-options-for-day-trading-megan-5/
Also, I have made the transition from DAS-TDA to thinkorswim(tos). The main misconception out there is that the FILLS in tos are worse than that of DAS. However after couple of years of DAS-TDA and comparing my experience to tos, I can assertively say that the tos fills are not that bad especially for day-trading options. The main things that are missing from tos is a good Level 2 and scripting like DAS has. If you get Bookmap, the Level2 void can be overcome. Since I am day-trading options, the Active Trader on tos works well and I am not missing the use of scripts.-
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If you have a problem with DAS not keeping the montage window in focus, resulting in hotkeys not working until you get the window back in focus, create the following hotkey to get focus to the montage window. Use this hotkey before hitting an execution hotkey.
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ERROR: Can't get valid price
For me, this usually happens when a hotkey or hot button is activated when the MONTAGE window has no focus.
You can see if the MONTAGE window has focus - it will have a green border.
Solution: click on the MONTAGE window to gain focus (it's border green) before a hotkey or hot button is activated.
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comments from BBT community:
Alfredo 3/9/2023 @ 12:48 pm
@Paras. It´s possible to have 2 different brokerage accounts in DAS? (IB + TDameritrade). My other question is if you know COBRA trading. Thanks
trader0 3/9/2023 @ 12:50 pm
@Alfredo Separate DAS apps for TDA, IB $150/mo for each
Bandit 1/24/2023 12:21 pm
@Paras thanks for inspiring me to move to DAS-TD and taking my coms away!! I trade the open and actually feel like I get better fills than IB, plus I've had shorts on several occasions where IB has not. So thank you:)
MomoTrader 3/1/2023 3:13 pm
@StephenMeowkmus @Hans I moved from DAS-IB to DAS-TD and am very happy and wish I had done it earlier. At the open, I do find a milli-second delay with DAS-TD, but not significant enough..I am a momentum trader and do quite a bit of scalping at the open..no big complaints. he zero commissions makes it really worth it.
NVDA 3/1/2023 @ 3:22 pm
@Hans late to this discussion but there are several studies out that show you et better fills with TD than IB.
MomoTrader 3/1/2023 @ 3:33 pm
@MasterChief https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4189239
MomoTrader 3/1/2023 @ 3:34 pm
@Hans not arrguing against your experience..I myself felt a milli-second delay in fills with DAS-TD (vs IB), but seems the fill price seems to be better with TD per those studies..
MomoTrader 3/1/2023 @ 3:36 pm
@Peter_laptop ...just to clarify, DAS is not DIRECT ACCESS Trading with IB & TD..Only Direct routing. They are Direct access with market only with native brokerrs using their API
Hans Contributor 3/1/2023 @ 3:36 pm
@Peter they were just showing that studies have shown that TD is better fills than IB. nobody was pushing one or the other, I have both
Shelley 3/1/2023 @ 3:37 pm
TD customer service is excellent. I was not impressed with IB's customer service.
David76 3/2/2023 @ 11:27 am
I don't think I understand how DAS is calculating trades. At the start of the morning I will position into 4 stock, but will has between 6 and 8 tickets.
MomoTrader 3/2/2023 @ 11:30 am
@David76 every transaction is counted as a ticket ..like if you short 500 shares and broker breaks it to two 250 share lots, thats two tickets...
MomoTrader 3/2/2023 @ 11:31 am
@David76 IB was notorious for such splits..and charged commission for every ticket..not seeing that too much with TD
Lori S 3/3/2023 @ 3:18 pm
DAS is $120 and then the data for TDA was going to be another $150 - I thought
trader0 3/3/2023 @ 3:19 pm
@Lori S No I have DAS-TDA - switched from DAS-IB - same cost for both
trader0 3/3/2023 @ 3:18 pm
@Lori S makes sense - DAS is $150 /mo for DAS-TDA and DAS-IB with TotalView, ARCA
Lori S 3/3/2023 @ 3:19 pm
ok so I would have the same cost, just less commissions...
trader0 3/3/2023 @ 3:19 pm
@Lori S yes
DarkMoon 3/17/2023 @ 11:45 am
I paid for both DAS-TD and DAS-IBKR for a month and ran some stats...after comms, TDA won out.
Hans Contributor 3/17/2023 @ 11:39 am
I strongly suggest using TD w/Das instead of IB. the fills are good now and the comm's savings is a life saver while you learn
Hans Contributor 3/17/2023 @ 11:47 am
@John I've had both and there is sometimes a slight delay getting filled on TD with das. There are independent tests that show better fills on TD but I don't think they are taking the delay into consideration. Your strategy many times requires very fast fills. Maybe TD isn't the best fit for you. But why not spend $150.00 on a month of Das with TD and see for yourself. If I had started with Das TD, I would have saved thousands in comms
Hans Contributor 3/17/2023 @ 11:53 am
@John_H a couple traders here in chat were insistent that I was wrong about TD Das because independent tests have shown best market order fills with TD. I traded them side by side and sometimes Das Td is delayed, its that simple
bv 3/17/2023 @ 11:41 am
TD ameritrade is not available to Canadians but TD investing is
trader0 4/27/2023 @ 1:52 pm
@Jamie @Korey DAS-TD - in my case it took 1 day to get marked as PDT (with number of trades that exceeded the limit) and 2 days to get the 4x margin on day and 2x on overnight - automatically
trader0 4/27/2023 @ 2:02 pm
https://dastrader.com/docs/supported-functions-by-das-ib-and-td-ameritrade/ here it says - ^TD acknowledgement is above a microsecond delay and so some hotkey orders may get rejected. The microsecond delay is not a problem for me even when trading ORBs
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Here's a link to the BBT scanner that you can access from your Trade Ideas account
https://bearbulltraders.com/download-trade-ideas-scanner/
I have the logic from an old doc for the BBT Trade Ideas gap up/down scanner logic - attaching here.
If you have an account with Trade Ideas (I don't), please post a screen shot of the latest logic for the BBT Trade Ideas gap up/down scanner.
Appreciate your help!
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Hey @Nperez13
>>>>> Reversals and ABCs; Since you have more time to determine proper risk,
You hit the nail right on the head ! Thanks
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1 hour ago, Nperez13 said:I’m interested to know any further findings, as I find my self I. The same predicament. A hotkey would allow me to simply my entry and focus on trade/pattern. But I’m not too sure how you could dictate your risk per trade if you’re buying the same amount for every trade.
Hey @Nperez13
I have tried various techniques. My latest approach is using BUYING POWER and buttons like below.
I am liking this so far. I am a momentum trader mostly - so I have to make quick decisions and all the risk/reward calculations etc was too much to handle.
Not many people are going to like my approach
I guess you have find your own technique.
B 200 -> buy 200 shares
B .20 BP -> buy 20% of buying power
S SL 25c - > (set for shorts) stop loss 25c above the price
S SL $150 -> (set for shorts) stop loss to fixed $150 total above the price based on the total price and quantity of of the shares
I guess you will be able to figure out the rest.
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1 hour ago, Courtney Watkins said:onlyjava,
Is AWS still your preferred method? T3a Medium? Any / all recommendations are welcome.
Like all of the other Apple lifers in this thread, I'm looking for a solution to run DAS simulator on my MAC before investing in a PC. I have a 27" iMac with 500 GB avail; details below:
Thank you in advance!
Is AWS still your preferred method? Yes
T3a Medium?
Yes
I set up this vm on aws in march 2020 and haven't changed it.
Works great for me - I use just one screen setup.
Also the vm hardly fails and I get a ~ 10 ms (whenever I checked) latency - which is awesome.
Drawbacks:
Costs about $15/ month or so - don't have an exact number because I have other services running on my account.
Multiple screen support is almost impossible to setup.
Overall - if you are going pro - you will eventually need multiple screens.
So you have think if this is the way you want to go.
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On 4/23/2020 at 9:07 AM, smp said:I have just starting using DAS Trader Pro and am really surprised by the use of an old not scalable type font (MS Sans Serif) in most of the dialogs and some parts of many windows where the font cannot always be reconfigured. This old font does not work with Windows ClearType and so looks jagged and also does not scale as well as TrueType/OpenType fonts.
Having used many trading platforms I certainly prefer good functionality over a pretty user interface, but as a software developer I know the changes to update the fonts are very minor, as is another change to enable Windows visual styles which improves the look of Windows controls (edits, check boxes, buttons etc).
Hence for my own use I have made a couple of changes to work around this and wonder if anyone else is interested. To show the difference here is part of the configuration dialog before and after the font change and also enabling visual styles:
This is at standard 100% scaling in Windows but even with a high DPI (4K) monitor using a higher scaling there is still a difference (one my own 4K monitors I only use 100% or 125%)
I did make an enhancement request to DAS support but never heard anything back even to acknowledge receipt.
If anyone is interested in making the same changes (at their own risk of course) then let me know and I'll create some instructions and post them here. The changes for the font issue is a Windows registry change and the visual styles for controls is either a Windows registry change or editing the executable (the former is recommended).
Hey @smp
Please post the instructions to update the DAS fonts - Thank you
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I am seeing ghost trades in my sim account - second or third time this has happened to me Below is the relevant portion of my chat with the DAS support DAS has not come back with an answer. Has this happened to anybody? ----------------------------------- Customer ServiceCustomer Service9:58 AM I am seeing a buy order at that time, entering you in position for AAL KRIS9:59 AM the one i am seeing in the history at 9.31.54 with a loss of -236.44 is me covering it i did not do a short sell before that - it magically appeared KRIS10:05 AM this has happened to me a couple of times - i thought at that time that it was me pressing the wrong key or something - did not check the history at that time today I checked the history and found the gap Customer ServiceCustomer Service10:06 AM One moment Customer ServiceCustomer Service10:12 AM So that buy order was covering a short that you did not enter
KRIS10:12 AM yes Customer ServiceCustomer Service10:12 AM Did you log in and make any trades over the weekend? KRIS10:12 AM not at all KRIS10:17 AM actually Thursday was the last day of trading - i skipped trading on friday Customer ServiceCustomer Service10:17 AM I would like to see the trade log from thurday Customer ServiceCustomer Service10:37 AM We would then a have to escalate the issue to our support team, please to have Thursday's file emailed to [email protected] clarifying that you were in a short position of AAL unknowingly and would like clarity on how it was created
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On 4/23/2020 at 9:07 AM, smp said:If anyone is interested in making the same changes (at their own risk of course) then let me know and I'll create some instructions and post them here. The changes for the font issue is a Windows registry change and the visual styles for controls is either a Windows registry change or editing the executable (the former is recommended).
@smp Yes - please post the instructions.
My das windows suddenly got messed up - the font sizes changed on the buttons (level 2) and the chart price labels. Would not revert to its original sizes even after restoring from a whole das backup.
I am guessing that this must be related to the font info DAS writes to the windows registry.
You are right - DAS could use better fonts and visual styles - the application is stuck in the Windows 95 look and feel..
Appreciate your help. Thank you.
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On 4/29/2019 at 6:30 AM, IamKarthi said:These are the books I read before going Live, apart from the BBT classes. It was very important for me to learn as much before going Live. Also, I read these books in the order mentioned below. I also listened to the Youtube audio version of Trading in the zone, the week before going Live and I must say that it helped calm my nerves a bit during the Live week.
-How to Day Trade for a Living by Andrew Aziz
- A Complete Guide to Volume Price Analysis by Anna Coulling
- Advanced Techniques in Day Trading by Andrew Aziz
-Trading in the zone by Mark Douglas
-The 1 Hour Trade by Brian Anderson
@IamKarthi - Thank you for sharing details about your trading journey. You have definitely enriched the BBT Community with your postings. Looking forward to hearing more from you.
I am especially impressed with your selection of trading related books - I bought all of them
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peterB - Your math is wrong - see figure in red!
if LAST=100 & POS=50
(Last*Pos-100)/Pos
(100*50-100)/50 = (5000-100)/50 = 4900/50=98
Last-100/Pos
100-100/50=100-2=98
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Tried avgcost-100/Pos - same error
Looks like it is the 100/Pos part that is causing the error.
Thanks for the response.
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I am trying to use this script for a hot button to set a STOP LOSS:
CXL ALLSYMB;ROUTE=STOP;StopType=Market;StopPrice=Last-100/Pos;StopPrice=Round2;Share=Pos;TIF=DAY+;SELL=Send;
OR
CXL ALLSYMB;ROUTE=STOP;StopType=Market;StopPrice=AvgCost-100/Pos;StopPrice=Round2;Share=Pos;TIF=DAY+;SELL=Send;
The above scripts throws the following ERROR
Script: Invalid price
Looks like DAS is not liking
100/Pos
[ STOPPRICE = (AvgCost*Pos-100)/Pos = AvgCost - (100/Pos) = AvgCost - 100/Pos ]
If AvgCost=5 and Pos=25
STOPPRICE = 5 - 100/25 = $1
which means that the StopLoss value = ($5 - $1) * 25 = $ 100
I am using this formula to fix my Stop Loss to $100 - a fixed amount.
Why is DAS throwing an error for this?
Any pointers will be appreciated - thanks in advance.
**SOLVED**
Gist:
Stop Price does not support the POS command
Use this workaround:
CXL ALLSYMB;Share=Pos;Price=100/Share;Price=Last-Price;Price=Round2;ROUTE=STOP;StopType=Market;StopPrice=Price;Share=Pos;TIF=DAY+;SELL=Send;
Here's my interaction with DAS support chat
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kris:
Hello,
I am trying to use this script for a hot button to set a STOP LOSS:
CXL ALLSYMB;ROUTE=STOP;StopType=Market;StopPrice=Last-100/Pos;StopPrice=Round2;Share=Pos;TIF=DAY+;SELL=Send;
The above script throws the following ERROR
Script: Invalid price
Looks like DAS is not liking
100/Pos
I am using this formula to fix my Stop Loss to $100 - a fixed amount.
Why is DAS throwing an error for this?Call accepted by operator Customer Service. Currently in room: Customer Service, kris.
Customer Service:
Hi this is Rashada'
Customer Service:
Please allow me some time to review
kris:
thanks
Customer Service:
Allow me to use your script
kris:
ok
Customer Service:
Yes the rejection is coming from Stopprice=Last-100/Pos
kris:
the formula is correct
kris:
[ STOPPRICE = (AvgCost*Pos-100)/Pos = AvgCost - (100/Pos) = AvgCost - 100/Pos ]
If AvgCost=5 and Pos=25
STOPPRICE = 5 - 100/25 = $1
which means that the StopLoss value = ($5 - $1) * 25 = $ 100
kris:
so looks like DAS is not allowing 100/Pos ?
kris:
I can use AvgCost - 0.15 and it is fine
kris:
AvgCost or Last
Customer Service:
Just a moment
Customer Service:
Stop Price does not support the POS command
kris:
is there a workaround - like using DefShare=Pos;StopPrice=Last-100/DefShare - something like this?
Customer Service:
What are you trying to do?
kris:
I am using this formula to fix my Stop Loss to $100 - a fixed amount.
kris:
see the calculation above
Customer Service:
You may try this hotkey to set your stop loss to be $100
Customer Service:
CXL ALLSYMB;Share=Pos;Price=100/Share;Price=Last-Price;Price=Round2;ROUTE=STOP;StopType=Market;StopPrice=Price;Share=Pos;TIF=DAY+;SELL=Send;
Customer Service:
Please test all Hotkey scripts prior to use to ensure accuracy. It is the responsibility of the trader for all order sent.
kris:
Appreciate your help - thank you so much!
Customer Service:
You are welcome
Customer Service:
Is there anything else I can assist you with?
kris:
No - thank you
Customer Service:
I hope you have a nice day. Goodbye!----------------------------------------------------
Here's how my hot buttons look like
With the $100 stop loss, once it is set, I can click and drag it to adjust - you just have to enable it in your chart area.
Also, I can hit the button again - since it is programmed on Last, it will re-adjust.
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I heard from a trader that
"My position size is set at $35,000 for my hot keys. So if I want to increase a position size over $35,000, I will hit a hotkey a couple of times to enter a trade"
Example scenario: when I could have one order for 3000 shares, I will end up with 3 orders for 1000 shares each.
Advantages:
With a fixed position size and related hotkeys I can master the mechanical aspect of trading. (instead of getting confused with more hotkeys etc)
As I get more confidence I gradually increase my capital and position size without changing the hotkeys I have mastered. Let us say, I start with $20000 and after 6 months I double the capital to $40000. I don't change the hotkeys that I have for $20000, I just hit the appropriate BUY|SELL hotkey twice if I want to take advantage of the extra $20000.
Disadvantages:
More transaction fees?
Timing lag?
Please advise me - thanks.
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Thanks Justin. Great pointers. I feel better now
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This morning I had a scary experience on my TEST account.
I was in the middle of a short trade.
In a couple of minutes, I tried to close out - no hotkeys, hot buttons nothing worked
Even the PANIC command /key/button did not work!
The application itself was not frozen - I was able to log out, restart etc.
But none of the commands were taking effect on the back end.
Here's the copy of interaction with the DAS customer support
** not very reassuring **
Anybody had this kind of experience with a live account?
How do you deal with this kind of a situation with a live account?
kris:
das trader is stuck - unable to close out position test accountCall accepted by operator Customer Service. Currently in room: kris, Customer Service.
Customer Service:
Welcome to DAS Online Live support! I am Alanna from the Customer Service and Sales Team. Please allow me to review your question.
kris:
account TRBXXX38
Customer Service:
Are you receiving a error message?
kris:
no
kris:
logged out
kris:
rebooted
kris:
used panic
kris:
no effect
Customer Service:
There has been a minor issue reported and our technicians are currently having it addressed. Please to allow us some time
kris:
is it only for the test accounts
kris:
what happens if this was a live account?
kris:
hello?
kris:
hello?Customer Service:
Yes only demokris:
what happens in case of a live account?
kris:
is there a panic number to call?Customer Service:
You could call your brokerkris:
how do i look at the log
Customer Service:
Trade>Trades
kris:
Send_Rej Buy AMD 500 40.21 SMAT 10:21:43 TRBBT2338 Route disable![1279]
CancelRej Buy AMD 500 40.32 SMAT 10:21:43 TRBBT2338 Route Disabled
Send_Rej Buy AMD 500 40.22 SMAT 10:21:42 TRBBT2338 Route disable![1279]
CancelRej Buy AMD 500 40.32 SMAT 10:21:42 TRBBT2338 Route Disabled
Send_Rej Buy AMD 500 40.24 SMAT 10:21:41 TRBBT2338 Route disable![1279]
CancelRej Buy AMD 500 40.32 SMAT 10:21:41 TRBBT2338 Route Disabled
Send_Rej Buy AMD 500 40.26 SMAT 10:21:34 TRBBT2338 Route disable![1279]Customer Service:
What hotkey are you using?kris:
CXL ALLSYMB;ROUTE=SMRTL;Price=Ask+0.10;Share=Pos;TIF=DAY+;BUY=Send;Customer Service:
Do you have SMRTL among your list of routesCustomer Service:
Please to right click on the route box then type it in the list of ROUTES below** SMRTL ** was not in the list
Customer Service:
Type SMRTL in the list** added SMRTL to the list and it wokrs now **
**Not sure why SMRTL was working up until it happened this morning and why SMRTL had to be added.**
Customer Service:
You should be fine
Customer Service:
I am not sure, the route may have been disabled on the demo. It was resolved
kris:
But I would like to know what happened - for the benefit of others in y group
Customer Service:
Once we have word we will have a email sent** More info **
https://www.dastrader.com/DAS-Support.html
Got this nice email form DAS - thank you DAS!
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I was researching ways to run DAS desktop on a Mac.
Windows running in VirtualBox:
This option is cheaper if you already have a Windows license. Too slow - even after allocating 4G of RAM to the VM.
Not a viable option for me.
Here's the option that I like best so far:
Running DAS desktop on a Windows server on Amazon AWS EC2 virtual machine.
Install: It took me less than 5 minutes to bring up a server and install DAS demo app.
The Windows on AWS is Windows Server 2019, which is much more stable than Windows 10 on a laptop. Windows 10 on a laptop
is **always** updating something or the other and causes so much pain and suffering.
Performance: works fast and seamlessly on my 2018 Macbook Pro 15 inch with 16G RAM.
Cost: T3a Medium (4G of RAM) $ 0.056/hr ($9 approx /month for a 8 hour day for a typical month - this includes cost of windows license)
Data ownership: AWS does not own your data on your VM. Data transmission when using the DASTrader application is encrypted. AWS will not be able
to read your data transmission.
Server management: You can temporarily stop or shutdown your server anytime. When it is stopped, you are paying very little for it.
Reliability: AWS has phenomenal stability - Netflix, Facebook etc depend on it. AWS Health Dashboard: https://status.aws.amazon.com/
**update** I am happy to report that even during the heavy traffic on the internet and AWS, during the corona virus work-from-home situation,
my setup is holding up great. I did not see ANY degradation in performance at all.
Network delay: This is where AWS really shines! See the Network Delay from my DAS below. This was before market opening on a Test Account.
Quoting Andrew: " A Network Delay below 20 ms is good". In places far away from Wall Street the network delay tends to be higher if you going through a local ISP.
AWS has superior networks than most ISPs.
From a Mac you can connect to this remote Windows using the free Microsoft Remote Desktop App 10 (available from the Mac App Store for free)
Another plus: I can switch to any Mac that I have easily and have my DAS run on it in less than a minute. All that the Mac needs is a quick install of Microsoft Remote Desktop App.
Here's DAS doc on this
https://www.dastrader.com/documents/How-to-run-PRO-on-Non-Windows-OS.pdf
Here's a screenshot of my Mac Microsoft Remote Desktop with DAS running on a Remote Windows Server on AWS EC2
SWITCH FROM DAS TO THINKORSWIM (TOS)
in Day Trading Hardware, Software and Tools
Posted · Edited by onlyjava
I made the switch from DAS back to thinkorswim (tos) - here are some observations that might be of help to traders who are comparing DAS to thinkorswim
SIMULATOR
DAS simulator is probably the best realtime sim out there.
TOS Papermoney (simulator) - the fills are really bad - it is counter intuitive - you would think that the fills would be super fast because it is a sim - but not. so I quickly switched from TOS sim to TOS live and started trading with a very small number shares - early on in my learning process.
HOT KEYS
TOS does not have elaborate hot keys like das - I made the switch - I use active trader on TOS like most TOS traders do - check out this video for the limited hotkey setup for TOS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKDoAFafN78
CAMARILLA
DAS has built in CAMARILLA pivots
You can script CAMARILLA pivots on TOS https://usethinkscript.com/threads/camarilla-pivot-points-day-trading-system-for-thinkorswim.12988/
LEVEL 2
DAS has really good level 2 - you can pay more and expand it to ARCA and IEX
TOS level 2 is a joke compared to DAS
TIME AND SALES
DAS has really good T&S
TOS T&S is decent - I have compared with DAS and found that DAS order flow is smoother - but TOS T&S works OK.
COST
DAS $150 per month min platform fee + the charges from your broker for transactions
TOS FREE platform + FREE transaction fees for stocks - if you have a Schwab account - you can create a Schwab account with with very little money
options cost $0.65 per contract per transaction
FILLS
DAS fills are considered superior than tos.
TOS fills are decent from my experience - there are studies that show that TOS fills are fast. to me the fills are super fast sometimes and decent most of the time.
WORKS ON A MAC
DAS windows primarily - can make it work on a Mac with parallels
TOS works on Mac, Windows, Linux out of the box
CHARTS & TOOLS
DAS look and feel of DAS is dated - like a 20 year old windows 95 application - configuring the charts with multiple windows is a struggle and unexpected craziness can happen with your layout. But essential chart studies are available on DAS. Options trading on DAS is available but not as good as the TOS interface. DAS has limited stock scanning capability.
TOS excels with charts, layout, chart studies (countless). I was able to replicate all the studies that I had on my DAS charts on TOS - most of them included with the TOS platform - others with a little bit of scripting. Link to Camarilla pivots script above. TOS also has extensive analysis tools, news and fundamentals info. TOS has a very sophisticated stock/options scanning interface with the ability to convert your scans into watchlists that update automatically. Overall, TOS wins.